Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about $3B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to $80B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those $3B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's $20B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about $3B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to $80B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those $3B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s $20B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> Comments on: Can Universal Healthcare Work? A Look at Israel’s Successful Model http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suzanne http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5085 Suzanne Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-5085 Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful. Gideon, I wish there was a like button on your post, very insightful.

]]> By: Gideon, Israel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Gideon, Israel Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:10:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-2056 It's amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity. The reality: 1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here's an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!! Back to Israel: 2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not "live off American taxpayers' money", not by a long shot. 3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest. 4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel's B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry - but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money. 5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge. "There is no free lunch" is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client. All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much. It’s amazing just how many people believe the myth that Israel lives off US charity.

The reality:

1. American ANNUAL aid to Israel is about B, which is very nice, thank you. Here’s an eye-opener: It is what the US spends on its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in one day (as of 2010)!!!

Back to Israel:

2. Israel`s annual budget amounts to B. Thus, US aid accounts for less than 4% of the national budget. Israel could manage without it. So Israel does not “live off American taxpayers’ money”, not by a long shot.

3. Those B in aid from the US go straight BACK to the American arms industry which is an American interest.

4. In addition to that, a large chunk of the REST of the Israel’s B defence budget ALSO goes to US industry – but this time out of the ISRAELI taxpayer`s money.

5. And of course, the US gets the best R&D and testing grounds it could wish for for its arms industry in return, free of charge.

“There is no free lunch” is an American saying. You had better believe it. You can consider the US aid to Israel a nice discount for a loyal and valuable client.

All this does in no way go to say that I don`t value America`s (especially non-financial) standing by Israel very much.

]]> By: Deb http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Deb Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-1160 Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made. Perhaps the root of the problem is the American view of healthcare. Those with power and money have always seen healthcare as the privalege of the affluent and the middle class. It is a basic human right for all people. Until healthcare beccomes a constitutional right for all Americans we will continue to avoid making the hard decisions that must be made.

]]> By: RJ Ray http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-984 RJ Ray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-984 To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their "Free Market Greed " cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth ! To answer Ms Bells question, Yes the United States subsidizes Israels health care system, And guess who enacted these subsidies ? The GOP aka a Republican majority, So by this standard those Islamic Arabs that the rightwing fringe depises so badly enjoy decent health care while their “Free Market Greed ” cost thousands of US lives every year, Just a little something to remember the next time you step into the voting booth !

]]> By: Deborah Newlin http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Deborah Newlin Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-917 I think the orginal question was about Israel's funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] - we help pay for it - we want it here - but we are told we can't afford it. It's unjust in every way imaginable! I think the orginal question was about Israel’s funding of health care for all their citizens, and how it is possiby made more generous as the Nation is supported by a continual stream of billions of US dollars? While their citizens enjoy universal healthcare, (and lucky them!)Israel honors that this it is a basic human right,we in the United States are suffering our systems inefficencies and greed. You have it [health care] – we help pay for it – we want it here – but we are told we can’t afford it. It’s unjust in every way imaginable!

]]> By: Stephen Asbel http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Stephen Asbel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-806 To the previous commenter - In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular "baskets" one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one's pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one's employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage. Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries. To the previous commenter – In Israel, taxpayers pay for the entire health care system. There are taxes on individuals and on employers. However, unless one wants to purchase coverages that are beyond the regular “baskets” one does not pay an additional premium that the employer takes out of one’s pay. Since the right to coverage is not tied to one’s employment, no one ever loses coverage due to loss of job or a job change. There are no exclusions for pre-existing coverage.

Americans who have health insurance may not be paying a tax for having health insurance but they are paying for it through direct premium deductions by their employers and they are also paying for it by lower wages and salaries.

]]> By: Cheryl Smith-Bell http://www.physiciansnews.com/2009/10/01/can-universal-healthcare-work-a-look-at-israels-successful-model/comment-page-1/#comment-798 Cheryl Smith-Bell Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:09:29 +0000 http://www.physiciansnews.com/?p=2599#comment-798 So how much of this free health care is subsidized by the American tax payer? Just wondering! So how much of this free health care is subsidized by the American tax payer? Just wondering!

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